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by John Ruggero
10 Oct 2015, 14:56
Forum: Type and Font Design
Topic: Clef design comparision
Replies: 102
Views: 121777

Re: Clef design comparision

Knut: I see. So, the second one is better, but still to bold? Yes, for me, it seems better upright. As far as the actual shape, we are now discussing minute differences. It would be interesting to see the clef a little less bold and/or a little wider to compare. As I said, for me treble clefs seem ...
by John Ruggero
10 Oct 2015, 14:46
Forum: Manual Notation
Topic: Pencil engraving - scores
Replies: 8
Views: 33629

Re: Pencil engraving - scores

For a score, the most active part would have been "eye-balled" in first and then the other parts line up against it with a ruler. Incidentally, in our hand copying, a ruler was used only for beams, bar lines, and for the kind of lining up that I just mentioned. There was also transparent s...
by John Ruggero
10 Oct 2015, 12:55
Forum: Manual Notation
Topic: Pencil engraving - scores
Replies: 8
Views: 33629

Re: Pencil engraving - scores

Hand copying was all done "by eye". No calculating or measuring. So it was more like a piece of visual art, than a technical diagram. I think many hand copyists had a strong visual art talent as well as being musicians; this is what drew (no pun intended) them to this field.
by John Ruggero
09 Oct 2015, 22:38
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: 12/8 Question
Replies: 60
Views: 90317

Re: 12/8 Question

OCTO, If Arnstein had copied that passage in the Wagner Tannhäuser Overture, you would not have had to put in all those beat markings! You must be referring to the endless pairs of 16th-notes in 4/4 at the end. Arnstein would have beamed all of those in groups of 4, not 2, and you and your colleague...
by John Ruggero
09 Oct 2015, 21:27
Forum: Books and Sites
Topic: Behind Bars
Replies: 17
Views: 24714

Re: Behind Bars

I know which side of my bread is buttered and will therefore refrain from further comment. (-:
by John Ruggero
09 Oct 2015, 21:22
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: 12/8 Question
Replies: 60
Views: 90317

Re: 12/8 Question

Peter, Arnstein, of course, would have used eight rests throughout, even though this is technically not in 12/8, so no decision- or exception-making would have been necessary. I wonder if one reason that this is NOT notated in 12/8 (in spite of the fact that this is the style of music for which 12/8...
by John Ruggero
09 Oct 2015, 19:11
Forum: Type and Font Design
Topic: Clef design comparision
Replies: 102
Views: 121777

Re: Clef design comparision

Knut, OCTO's blue line shows the clockwise rotation that you were describing. Did you actually design the clef with the blue line vertical and then rotate the symbol, or simply start with that angle and design the clef around it? I did rotate your clef and like it better that way. I agree with OCTO ...
by John Ruggero
09 Oct 2015, 16:33
Forum: Books and Sites
Topic: Behind Bars
Replies: 17
Views: 24714

Re: Behind Bars

Now I am in really big trouble!
by John Ruggero
09 Oct 2015, 14:55
Forum: Problems and Solutions (Help)
Topic: Simplify notes
Replies: 8
Views: 13976

Re: Simplify notes

A good musician would stop the trill on the the fourth beat no matter what notation is used. But if you want to use symbols and nail it down, write: Baroque-Trill-copy.gif This would be one of the those cases where the trill "stops' on the upper note, against the normal rule. But of course it r...
by John Ruggero
08 Oct 2015, 23:44
Forum: Type and Font Design
Topic: Quarter rest design
Replies: 17
Views: 22924

Re: Quarter rest design

Knut, you are absolutely right. It is that lower projection sticking out below the rest of the symbol that gives me this impression. With yours, it is very slight. I am sorry to be so picky, but obviously you are looking for honest opinions.