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- 05 Mar 2024, 17:08
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Another Beethoven centered beam
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Another Beethoven centered beam
This one comes from the first movement of the Sonata op. 28: Beethoven op 28.1 MS.png In this case, Beethoven uses the centered beam to preserve normal stem direction for the three notes involved. But not to obey "the rules". He does it because he wants the stem direction to stay the same ...
- 05 Mar 2024, 16:57
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
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Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
That may be, Neera, but the subject of the thread is putting a clef change after a double repeat that occurs in the middle of a staff.
- 05 Mar 2024, 03:44
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
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Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Hi, FredGUnn. We meet again. :) Yes, I just gave several examples in the posts above of mid-measure double repeat signs and how the clef falls after the repeat mark. Imagine how bad those would look if the Gould-Dorico system were applied. The way I understand it is: A repeat mark substitutes for a ...
- 04 Mar 2024, 23:32
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
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Re: Placement of tuplets
Yes, the single-note in the measure issue. Thanks for bringing that one up. Then there is the bad position of the stem-side two-note slur. If I had a dollar for each one of those... I agree completely that tuplet brackets are necessary in complex contemporary music. However, I also think that they a...
- 04 Mar 2024, 22:29
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7457
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Thanks, Shinohara Hoshi. This just came up again over at the Dorico forum, so I thought I should post here because I don't think that it's been discussed here. I am interested in knowing whether Gould based this rule on a tradition that I've never encountered. But it is clear that software should be...
- 04 Mar 2024, 19:10
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7240
Re: Placement of tuplets
Here is an example of how music customs do not always improve. The first example is from the first movement of the first edition of Beethoven's Sonata op. 31 no. 1. One sees he dramatic peaks and valleys of the music as if it were mountain range: Beethoven op 31 no 1 Naegeli .png This wonderful pict...
- 04 Mar 2024, 18:37
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7240
Re: Placement of tuplets
I agree that music notation "customs" change with time, Shinohara Hoshi. Sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse. The great power of personal computers makes it possible for knowledgable individuals to pick and choose what they think are the best solutions from the past and p...
- 04 Mar 2024, 17:05
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7457
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Here are a couple more:
- 04 Mar 2024, 17:02
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
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Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
On page 234 of Gould's Behind Bars , we encounter the following rule: Gould rule.png Application of this rule leads to the following result as shown in an example I engraved in Dorico. The clef change is placed outside of the repeat mark! This is the only way Dorico can handle this situation automat...
- 04 Mar 2024, 15:39
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7240
Re: Placement of tuplets
You are very welcome, Anders. I still wonder why it has become such a hard rule - at least in some quarters. Hard and fast rules do make things "easier." Many aspects of music notation were nuanced in earlier times. I see a lot of sensitivity to musical values being expressed in earlier no...