Opposing Seconds with dots

[benwiggy]

I much prefer this:

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instead of this:

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The latter seems much too distorted/displaced from its 'true' position.

Who's with me?

[tisimst]

Completely agree, benwiggy.

[RMK]

Absolutely

[NeeraWM]

*raise hand*

What software creates this by default? Or were you asked to do it?

[benwiggy]

This is, as far as I can tell, Dorico's default. There is a Notation Options for Unisons, but not for seconds.

It's a moment's work to fix it (Swap Voice Order), but it would be great not to have to do it at all.

I realise there are complications with things like F# vs F natural; or G in the lower voice; or if they both had dots, etc.

Speaking of which, this seems to be what Finale does without manual intervention for F# and F nat:

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[MichelRE]

instead of swapping voices why not simply change the voice column index?

[benwiggy]

instead of swapping voices why not simply change the voice column index?

No: I'm not swapping voice CONTENTS, but Voice ORDER, which does indeed swap the voice column index on each note.

[OCTO]

The first example is the most convenient!

[Wescott]

Concur with everyone; I'd rather read the first one any day.

[benwiggy]

I just saw some work done in Sibelius with the same issue: don't know if it's a default.

Finale seems to do this, too,

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which possibly looks like a staccato dot.