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by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 23:14
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

You can use different algorithms in the same file via the note spacing plug-in: Great! I had never installed that one I guess. Something else to mess around with tonight. I tried to see what would happen if I fed the Sibelius allotment settings into Finale. There are clearly some other factors at p...
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 21:56
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

Knut wrote:Interesting!
For me it's definitely between 1.414 and 1.5. Kind of a toss-up, but I might prefer 1.5, actually.
I've used 1.618 for over 15 years at this point, but I might prefer 1.5 too. I've always liked the look of SCORE's output, and looking at this I think that might be what it used.
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 21:38
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

Ok, here's a look at some scaling values I've heard mentioned before. I'm pretty sure we can all agree the values 1 and 2 aren't acceptable options, so everyone's preference must lie somewhere in between. Scaling Factors.jpg 1.5 to 1.618 look the best to me I think. As mentioned in the original post...
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 19:25
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Algorithms of accidental spacings
Replies: 37
Views: 39604

Re: Algorithms of accidental spacings

Actually, your example looks best to me. I see you have emboldened lines, haven't you? Thanks! Yeah, they are a bit thicker than the default. Barlines and ledger lines are 25% thicker than the staff lines or something too. Most of those settings I haven't changed in a really long time though, proba...
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 19:06
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

John Ruggero wrote:Both Sibelius versions remind me of the spacing that happens intuitively when copying by hand.
I might be wrong, but I suspect that's what they were going for but not using a fixed ratio. Some built in kind of randomness that makes it more humanistic.
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 19:01
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

If anyone is interested, all I did for the Sib spacing was keep the quarter as the reference width, and then adjust the values so every time the duration doubles, the allotted width increases by 1.618.

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by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 17:06
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Algorithms of accidental spacings
Replies: 37
Views: 39604

Re: Algorithms of accidental spacings

I often turn off spacing for ledger lines and tweak where necessary. Yeah, that's generally what I do too. Once I'm to the layout phase and I've done some global spacing, I uncheck Automatic Music Spacing and tweak things by hand. For a really tough bar, sometimes I've had to turn on Avoid Collisio...
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 16:42
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

Also, here it is with my Golden Mean based settings for Sibelius. They are pretty much identical in terms of spacing, so this is easy to do in Sibelius. I'm just curious if people prefer the look of it over the default more "humanistic" approach.
Fin vs Sib My Spacing.jpg
Fin vs Sib My Spacing.jpg (66.93 KiB) Viewed 12077 times
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 16:35
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Spacing proportions and settings
Replies: 34
Views: 47872

Re: Spacing proportions and settings

Bringing it back to the original post, here are some random eighth, quarter, and half rhythms from both Sibelius and Finale. While different, quite honestly they both look pretty good. The measure that sticks out for me is the 4th, especially in relation to the 3rd. Sib seems to give a lot more spac...
by Fred G. Unn
19 Oct 2015, 15:56
Forum: Type and Font Design
Topic: Clef design comparision
Replies: 102
Views: 121725

Re: Clef design comparision

Knut wrote:In light of the earlier discussion on rotation, number three from the left is the best one to me.
+1, I agree.