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I appreciate all the comments about this topic. Many thanks.

That is something. Thank you for the excellent specific example. According to Sandra Rosenbaum Performance Practices in Classic Piano Music , Beethoven used mp, p, pp, ppp, mf, f, ff in his 32 piano sonatas and more soft dynamics than loud. According to her the first use of ppp in his piano music is...

Hmmm...very interesting.

Fred G. Unn wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 13:17 ppp is listed in the Tromlitz flute treatise from 1791, so must have been in use by then anyway.

Does anyone know approximately when (or by whom) PPP first came to
be used to indicate extremely quiet passages?

I looked this up and couldn't find anything. Maybe I'm not understanding your message.
I don't have other email problems.

OCTO wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 15:05 Maybe it is a problem with the mail server. Or you get spam?
@Agent007 will fix it.

Thanks, I'll have a look at your suggestion.

OCTO wrote: ↑24 Aug 2023, 15:05 Maybe it is a problem with the mail server. Or you get spam?
@Agent007 will fix it.

Thank you again for your observations on this. What I do is imagine that I am composing it, and how would I do that. Possibly Chopin didn't view it as a problem at all. If he had made a slur between the F# and E#, then I could see the decrescendo applying to it. But he didn't, which I take to mean t...

I'm an artist, I only notice what is ugly. If by "forced apart" you mean not required to all be a standard distance from each other, I couldn't agree more. Many publishers feel compelled to make piano systems as uniform as possible, but I think that does a disservice to the people who'll b...

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Thank you for your thoughtful comment. For me the passage is still unresolved if the end of the decrescendo appears with a Fz. There are two opposing events here. One is the RH chord - specifically the F# - diminuendo into the E#. The other is the LH arpegg crescendo into the same E#. I play the E# ...