Accidental spelling question

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Re: Accidental spelling question

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Seconds are fine as-is: one solution could be starting the bar with a Gb instead of an F#, but I’m not entirely sure it’s necessary.

In the firsts I’d probably go with B C# Eb: I don’t particularly like writing or reading diminished seconds, and to me the diminished third that’s necessary to switch from sharps to flats in a whole tone scale is easiest to parse when the diminished third is placed between two notes that have to have accidentals.
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Re: Accidental spelling question

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MichelRE wrote: 06 Sep 2026, 02:13
OCTO wrote: 05 Sep 2026, 21:19 If the phrase starts from E :n , maybe you can respell F :f -G :f etc.
Otherwise it is ok.
I'll look at it again.
I have a tendency to avoid writing C and F :f and B and E :s
I remember playing operas by Wagner and Strauss, they are full of such accidentals.

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Re: Accidental spelling question

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LOL Wagner and Strauss are also replete with double (s)harps and double flats!!!
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Sometimes sextuple harps...
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Re: Accidental spelling question

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LOL, that was a typo (for some reason, if I don't strike the "S" key on my keyboard in just a very specific direction, it doesn't respond.)
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Re: Accidental spelling question

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MichelRE wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 14:39 I can't say "well this passage is in X-minor, therefore I need to use X-spelling."

I'm trying to make READING the passage as easy on the eyes as possible for the performers.
Vln. II is just C# ascending melodic minor starting on E (up to the Eb) so one option could be to use that spelling in that bar. It uses a B# but would be easily read as it's a standard scale that they practice every day. Alternatively, just switch the Gb to F# and leave the whole bar as flats.

For Vln. I, I think with whole tone scales I'm more used to seeing sharps when this is ascending, and then using D# - F natural, and using flats with Db - B natural when descending. Here are a couple of examples from a Guy Lacour etude:
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I think what you have is easily enough read though, just presenting some rationale behind other options.
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