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Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 22 Sep 2026, 08:14
by Magnus Johansson
John Ruggero wrote: 18 Sep 2026, 19:08 [...]
However, it has many capabilities beyond Finale, and I put up with the "help" for the sake of the increased capabilities. For example, the following slurring would have been impossible in Finale:

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Hello! Did Dorico accept the metrical faults in bars 328 and 332?

Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 23 Sep 2026, 21:46
by Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito wrote: 17 Sep 2026, 22:44 For me a clear NOT.
Any particular reason?
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Plethora.

To start with - who is in the most stable position in the long run? Not I who went for Finale. Those who mastered open source stuff (Lilypond, MusiXTeX, Frescobaldi etc.). Nothing has changed for them, and won't change, unless they decide so. No unwanted "transition", conversion, re-editing. Everything always where left, with output potentially second to none.

Not to mention that they are the most flexible ones when it comes to selection of OS, and hardware.

Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 23 Sep 2026, 22:31
by John Ruggero
Hi Magnus. I had to do a lot of finagling to make it adhere to the original notation that's for sure. But that would have been necessary in Finale as well. An augmentation dot for the upper note of the bass octave got partially covered by the natural sign in m . 332. I will need to fix that. Thanks for pointing it out if that's what you were referring to.

Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 23 Sep 2026, 23:15
by MichelRE
Mr_Incognito wrote: 23 Sep 2026, 21:46 To start with - who is in the most stable position in the long run? Not I who went for Finale. Those who mastered open source stuff (Lilypond, MusiXTeX, Frescobaldi etc.). Nothing has changed for them, and won't change, unless they decide so. No unwanted "transition", conversion, re-editing. Everything always where left, with output potentially second to none.
I've gone from Dorico 3 to the very latest version, and never had to make any changes to my scores.
So I have NO idea why you're bringing up "transition", "converting", and "re-editing".
Everything is always exactly where I left it.

This seems to demonstrate that you are rather unfamiliar with Dorico.

Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 24 Sep 2026, 06:18
by Magnus Johansson
John Ruggero wrote: 23 Sep 2026, 22:31 Hi Magnus. I had to do a lot of finagling to make it adhere to the original notation that's for sure. But that would have been necessary in Finale as well. An augmentation dot for the upper note of the bass octave got partially covered by the natural sign in m . 332. I will need to fix that. Thanks for pointing it out if that's what you were referring to.
OK. Yes, you're welcome; that and the too many 64th notes in bar 328.

Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 24 Sep 2026, 13:18
by John Ruggero
The final group was easily handled as a tuplet in Dorico, Magnus. I didn't add an editorial tuplet indication because it is not in the first edition, which was presumably intentional. Whether the 32nd rest is a mistake for a 64th rest is an open question. An argument might be made either way. Here is the original:
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Re: Dorico…to be or not.

Posted: 24 Sep 2026, 15:59
by Magnus Johansson
John Ruggero wrote: 24 Sep 2026, 13:18 The final group was easily handled as a tuplet in Dorico, Magnus. I didn't add an editorial tuplet indication because it is not in the first edition, which was presumably intentional. Whether the 32nd rest is a mistake for a 64th rest is an open question. An argument might be made either way. Here is the original:

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OK, did you input the 64th notes as triplets and then removed the 3's and hooks? A 64th rest doesn't solve the problem so it is likely Ravel meant triplets, don't you think so?