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Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 19:22
by jrethorst
John Ruggero wrote:I wonder if a case could be made for using clefs and engraving styles of the period for older music, rather like period instruments.
A good case could be made for that.
John R.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 19:35
by jrethorst
Some years ago there was a notation program named HB Music Engraver. It had interface issues and was not for sale for very long, but its output was nice. See
http://www.classicalguitarschool.net/en/ for a number of free pieces for classical guitar done with it.
Its default font, "Interlude", was okay except it had a distinctive treble clef. As nicely balanced as Sonata's, which most aren't, and good play between thick and thin. IMHO.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 19:52
by tisimst
jrethorst wrote:Some years ago there was a notation program named HB Music Engraver. It had interface issues and was not for sale for very long, but its output was nice. See
http://www.classicalguitarschool.net/en/ for a number of free pieces for classical guitar done with it.
Its default font, "Interlude", was okay except it had a distinctive treble clef.
Interlude G clef.pdf
I wondered where that font came from! It is used in my church's hymnal and I've always been appalled by it (sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone who may like it). Thanks for sharing, John.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:11
by benwiggy
I much prefer the 'T'-shape Alto clef in Knut's Menuet example. There are also some K-shaped ones.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 20:16
by jrethorst
Some glyphs in Interlude aren't as nice. BTW I tried to show it inline in my post but I'm new here and couldn't figure that out. How can I do that? and I'll revise my post. Thanks.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 21:37
by Knut
benwiggy wrote:I much prefer the 'T'-shape Alto clef in Knut's Menuet example. There are also some K-shaped ones.
Thanks, Ben! Although, I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'T-shape'. This glyph is based on Durand's golden age c clef design, which I think is a refined version of the K-shaped clef used in older french engravings.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 08:55
by benwiggy
It's got right-angles!

Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 08:37
by Knut
jrethorst wrote:Some glyphs in Interlude aren't as nice. BTW I tried to show it inline in my post but I'm new here and couldn't figure that out. How can I do that? and I'll revise my post. Thanks.
There is a 'place inline' button below the main window in the message editor, but it won't work with pdf files, unfortunately.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 08:38
by Knut
benwiggy wrote:It's got right-angles!

Ah, I see.
Re: Clef design comparision
Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 11:00
by benwiggy
Knut, can you list the fonts in the original post of this thread?
I particularly like the last one on the right.