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Buying a plate
Posted: 06 May 2024, 08:11
by benwiggy
I've only just found out** that Henle sells old plates from the "Gift Shop" on their website. They're advertised at €33, but after shipping (to UK) and VAT, it comes out as c. €60.
There's no indication of what I'm going to get, so it's a lucky dip! I'll let you know when it arrives.
** On reflection, it may have been mentioned here before, but I was reminded by the Discover Dorico monthly video, where John Barron does "From Plate to Page", trying to match it.
Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 08 May 2024, 11:40
by Fred G. Unn
Yep, I have one too. In the US, the Julliard store also sells them. I bought mine at the store, but they obviously ship too.
https://juilliardstore.com/products/ori ... e-51488010
Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 08 May 2024, 22:51
by John Ruggero
https://www.walmart.com/ip/G-Henle-Verl ... /594209457
They're out of stock. They must be a big seller at Walmart.

The example given is the first page of Chopin's Waltz op. 64 no. 2 in C# minor.
Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 10 May 2024, 13:55
by benwiggy
It's arrived!
First impressions -- because of the lead, it's heavier but more malleable than I had expected. It's a page from Liszt's Petrarch Sonnets. It seems to match their modern edition pretty well. (Or vice versa.)
It's page 5 here: (the 10th page of the sample)
https://www.henle.de/en/Second-Petrarch-Sonnet/HN-982
There's lots of stuff on it -- fingering, arpeggios, text; so I'm very happy.

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Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 11 May 2024, 12:25
by John Ruggero
Is that the reverse side?
Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 11 May 2024, 17:30
by benwiggy
No. I scanned the plate at 2400dpi, then flipped the image. Because of the light from the scanner, it makes it looks like the holes are actually raised!
I've also brightened up the colours and contrast a bit. It's quite golden and green in places, with the oxidized metals.

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Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 12 May 2024, 08:49
by benwiggy
Ooh: also there's a mistake!
The first system is a massive cadenza in one bar, numbered 63, which has no barline at the end, and the next system starts with (64) in brackets. It ought to be (63), as the continuation of the cadenza. Otherwise, we're off by one when we get to the next bar number.
Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 12 May 2024, 14:44
by benwiggy
Also, the sample page from the current publication on the Henle webpage looks to be taken from the plate, and not a Finale copy. I'm basing this on the uneven character spacing in the text, and the way that the braces don't always fit the staves. (And that the didn't fix the bar number.)

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Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 18 May 2024, 07:55
by benwiggy
Here's the piano pedal up.

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Re: Buying a plate
Posted: 18 May 2024, 12:05
by John Ruggero
benwiggy wrote: ↑12 May 2024, 08:49
Ooh: also there's a mistake!
The first system is a massive cadenza in one bar, numbered 63, which has no barline at the end, and the next system starts with (64) in brackets. It ought to be (63), as the continuation of the cadenza. Otherwise, we're off by one when we get to the next bar number.
I don't think it's a mistake, just confusing, particularly because of the parentheses. Here is another example from a Henle edition. The measure number seems to refer to the first complete measure on the system:

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