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Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 29 Sep 2026, 22:07
by John Ruggero
Spotted in the older Henle Complete Works of Beethoven: Diabelli Variations:
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instead of:
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Is the Henle acceptable?

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 29 Sep 2026, 23:07
by RMK
Not in my opinion.

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 30 Sep 2026, 02:41
by Schonbergian
They might have been trying to copy the alignment of the first edition:
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In my opinion, while the correct rhythm is made obvious by the notation, placing the dot where they did is confusing for no good reason. I would have followed the example of the first edition and clearly offset it.

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 30 Sep 2026, 08:00
by NeeraWM
One of the several blunders one can find in several Henle editions if one scratches beyond the surface or elegant engraving.

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 30 Sep 2026, 12:43
by John Ruggero
Schonbergian wrote: 30 Sep 2026, 02:41 I would have followed the example of the first edition and clearly offset it.
While the first edition version is certainly preferable to what Henle did, most editions follow Beethoven's manuscript and the copy by his copyist and do it as shown in the second example in the OP. Dotted quarter note first, then the half note.

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 30 Sep 2026, 16:53
by benwiggy
I would put the halfnote first.

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 30 Sep 2026, 21:05
by John Ruggero
That would work as well.

Re: Lapse in Henle?

Posted: 30 Sep 2026, 21:18
by John Ruggero
Correction to my statement that most editions use Beethoven's positioning. The old Breitkopf and Haertel and the von Bulow edition both do it like Henle. Wiener Urtext and Schnabel edition use Beethoven's dotted quarter first with dot and then the half note.