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As you suggest, this is done to avoid conflict with tempo markings and other elements. I think they're relatively hard to find in computer set parts, because of the default positioning in most programs. I've seen this quite often in hand engraved music, though, but only as an exception to avoid collisions or improve clarity when following notes in the low register. Placing the numbers below the staff by default like in these samples seems wrong to me as well.John Ruggero wrote:2. There is no comment about the unusual position of the rest numbers.
Apparently they must be of the opinion that this disturbs the entrance for the musician, since it would involve shifting the main rests or flipping the stem of the main notes at the entry point in many cases. I disagree with this on the grounds you mention.John Ruggero wrote:4. A blanket rule about cue notes not appearing in a playing bar is unfortunate and contrary to much tradition. Arnstein insisted that the cues lead the player gracefully into their entrance without sudden pauses that don't actually occur in the music.
I didn't understand this rule, either, and I'm left wondering what the point of it is.John Ruggero wrote:6. If they mean that cues are not transposed (I couldn't quite make it out), it is counter to good sense and Arnstein.
The dashes are indeed ugly, and the metronome marks are way too big, but otherwise, as I mentioned in the Brahms discussion, I find this text style preferable to the italic tempo alterations found in a lot of older scores, because it improves consistency. It also seems to me that this has become the default text style for all tempo indications in instrumental parts, so I'm not surprised to find them in UE's house style.John Ruggero wrote:A the notes are swamped by the markings, in particular the huge rit.'s in bold followed by very ugly large dashes and the a tempos in bold non italic stand out too much. The metronome markings are also too big and bold. The black note heads are ugly in the Finale example. The slurs are too thick in the FInale example.
Unfortunately, I don't think such style sheets are generally for public consumption. The only other one I know that's been widely circulated is the guidelines from the Music Publisher's Association of The United States, available here:Ralph L. Bowers jr. wrote:Yes, extremely informative.
Thank you.
Does anyone have other publisher style sheets to share?
Might be a good idea to have a thread devoted just to this topic.?
The Schirmer book is available:Ralph L. Bowers jr. wrote:Yes, extremely informative.
Thank you.
Does anyone have other publisher style sheets to share?
Might be a good idea to have a thread devoted just to this topic.?
John and I went on this merry-go-round a while ago and I'm sure neither of us are going to change the other's mind, but I was taught and still believe it is better to end the cue before the bar containing the entrance in most cases. The fear IMO is not that the player "will mistake a cue note for a playing note," but rather that the player will space out while following along with the cue, and then all of a sudden have an "oh crap" moment as they miss the entrance. (Unfortunately, speaking from experience here.) IMO, as the cue line itself is not played by the musician that is reading the cue, it is musically irrelevant, so finishing the phrase really has no purpose as the sole purpose of the cue is to make sure the player doesn't miss the entrance, and a cue that ends conspicuously before the bar containing the entrance better serves to highlight the entrance. (In some high school and simpler arrangements, the "cues" are often optional doubled parts so obviously finishing a phrase is essential in these cases.)John Ruggero wrote: The UE (and other's) cue rule apparently grows out of a fear that the player will mistake a cue note for a playing note. Even in the days of hand copying, this was not a real danger with well-copied parts; and still less now. The advantage of having a complete and musical cue would seem to greatly outweigh this slight "danger", if such exists, and a look through the parts of various chamber and orchestral works in Henle and Breitkopf editions and others shows numerous cues that disobey the UE rule.
I too find these conventions very odd in 2016.John Ruggero wrote: 1. Their use of the old rest symbols is strange in the year 2016.
2. There is no comment about the unusual position of the rest numbers.
This is actually fairly standard in jazz and popular music, but seems very odd to me as well for a classical publisher. Personally, I hate this convention even with jazz and popular published music.John Ruggero wrote:3. That the tuplet brackets are always horizontal and above the staff would seem to lead to difficulties.