Notation Programs' Output Comparison
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At the risk of overselling op 119 no 1, I would like to point out that it is one that appeals to a very wide range of listeners because it sounds Impressionistic to some, Expressionistic to others, and simply common-practice to the rest.
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Yes, it has a certain impressionistic feel, and some interesting harmony.John Ruggero wrote:At the risk of overselling op 119 no 1, I would like to point out that it is one that appeals to a very wide range of listeners because it sounds Impressionistic to some, Expressionistic to others, and simply common-practice to the rest.
Here's a sneak peek of the first three systems with my own settings and 'style sheet'. It's certainly a lot of work to get it right!
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I like what I see, Knut! Your engraving makes a good case for this as our example piece.
In any case, does anyone have more suggestions for such a piece? And how should a final decision be reached, if at all?
In any case, does anyone have more suggestions for such a piece? And how should a final decision be reached, if at all?
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In addition to IMSLP, good site though it is, here's another collection of scores:
http://socrates.acadiau.ca/courses/musi ... scores.htm
John R.
http://socrates.acadiau.ca/courses/musi ... scores.htm
John R.
John Rethorst
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Knut, that's nicely done. Sorry to ask a question everyone else may know the answer to, but what program and font did you use?
John Rethorst
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Thank you! I used Finale and my own music font.jrethorst wrote:Knut, that's nicely done. Sorry to ask a question everyone else may know the answer to, but what program and font did you use?
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jrethorst wrote:
Here is a list of online sources that I have found helpful besides IMSLP. In looking through this material again, I just rediscovered a wonderful source for Chopin, including the Preludes in MS and sketches, in case we chose something by Chopin:
http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/ocve/
Here are other links:
http://piano.francais.free.fr/alkan/
http://www.bach-digital.de/content/index.xed
http://www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de/sixcm ... mid=Search
http://beethoven.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de
http://www.brahms-institut.de/web/bihl_ ... start.html
http://chopin.lib.uchicago.edu
http://en.chopin.nifc.pl/institute/publ ... /facsimile
http://juilliardmanuscriptcollection.org/composers/
http://www.themorgan.org/music/manuscript-list
http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/start.php?l=2
http://www.digital-collections.de/index ... ,%20Julius
http://www.free-scores.com/frame-uk.php ... ia+Project
http://www.loc.gov/performingarts/
http://www.piano.ru/inter.html
http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms ... ti/musica/
http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin. ... B%5D=musik
http://web.library.yale.edu/music/digital-libraries
https://polona.pl/search/
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... anuscripts
http://www.mozart21.de/en/links.html
Thanks so much, John.In addition to IMSLP, good site though it is, here's another collection of scores
Here is a list of online sources that I have found helpful besides IMSLP. In looking through this material again, I just rediscovered a wonderful source for Chopin, including the Preludes in MS and sketches, in case we chose something by Chopin:
http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/ocve/
Here are other links:
http://piano.francais.free.fr/alkan/
http://www.bach-digital.de/content/index.xed
http://www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de/sixcm ... mid=Search
http://beethoven.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de
http://www.brahms-institut.de/web/bihl_ ... start.html
http://chopin.lib.uchicago.edu
http://en.chopin.nifc.pl/institute/publ ... /facsimile
http://juilliardmanuscriptcollection.org/composers/
http://www.themorgan.org/music/manuscript-list
http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/start.php?l=2
http://www.digital-collections.de/index ... ,%20Julius
http://www.free-scores.com/frame-uk.php ... ia+Project
http://www.loc.gov/performingarts/
http://www.piano.ru/inter.html
http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms ... ti/musica/
http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin. ... B%5D=musik
http://web.library.yale.edu/music/digital-libraries
https://polona.pl/search/
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... anuscripts
http://www.mozart21.de/en/links.html
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After working for few minutes with the Chopin site I mentioned, the Online Chopin Variorum Edition, I am stunned. (Please forgive the superlatives that follow.)
This site is unbelievable. Not only is there an incredible wealth of sources (there are about 30 for the preludes alone) but if one selects and clicks any measure in any source, that one measure will be displayed in one window from every source so that one can compare them. GIven the number of divergencies in Chopin's works, this is been long needed. What a resource for performers, researchers, and engravers! If only there were such a site for all composers.
I had used this site several years ago, when they had just started with a few pieces, but had no idea that they had successfully implemented this project for Chopin' complete works.
http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/ocve/
Select View OCVE, Select a Work and have fun!
This site is unbelievable. Not only is there an incredible wealth of sources (there are about 30 for the preludes alone) but if one selects and clicks any measure in any source, that one measure will be displayed in one window from every source so that one can compare them. GIven the number of divergencies in Chopin's works, this is been long needed. What a resource for performers, researchers, and engravers! If only there were such a site for all composers.
I had used this site several years ago, when they had just started with a few pieces, but had no idea that they had successfully implemented this project for Chopin' complete works.
http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/ocve/
Select View OCVE, Select a Work and have fun!
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That's amazing.John Ruggero wrote:if one selects and clicks any measure in any source, that one measure will be displayed in one window from every source so that one can compare them.
John Rethorst
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Knut, beautifully done! I enjoy very much your example.
One small thing to consider: ties in your example should be more flatten, IMO.
One small thing to consider: ties in your example should be more flatten, IMO.
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