[puzzle] A Breve Problem
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[puzzle] A Breve Problem
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I've mocked it up crude, and don't intend to leave it this way. Any way you can advise? Or is this a solution for open ties?
I've mocked it up crude, and don't intend to leave it this way. Any way you can advise? Or is this a solution for open ties?
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Re: [puzzle] A Breve Problem
I am not sure if this accent is allowable to be placed on the staff line (I think not), but here is my option:
BTW, what font do you use?Re: [puzzle] A Breve Problem
I might go for open ties in this situation, especially if they're used elsewhere in the score.
Otherwise, I really don't see any reason to keep the ties that flat. A bit more arc might make placement of the marcatos easier. In any case, I think you need to tweak a combination of elements (spacing, stem length, ties and articulations) to get the best result. Here's a suggestion:
OCTOs suggestion to flip the marcatos is fine if unavoidable, but I don't think it's needed in this case.
Otherwise, I really don't see any reason to keep the ties that flat. A bit more arc might make placement of the marcatos easier. In any case, I think you need to tweak a combination of elements (spacing, stem length, ties and articulations) to get the best result. Here's a suggestion:
OCTOs suggestion to flip the marcatos is fine if unavoidable, but I don't think it's needed in this case.
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Re: [puzzle] A Breve Problem
Thanks! I like that option too. Is it okay to have the half-notes not match up between the staves? That was also part of the problem.OCTO wrote:I am not sure if this accent is allowable to be placed on the staff line (I think not), but here is my option:
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BTW, what font do you use?
The font I'm using is Cadence.


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I like your solution, and am more concerned about the break in the parallel voices in the half-note context. You would find it acceptable to shift the half-note over on the right hand while leaving it as is on the left-hand staff?Knut wrote:I might go for open ties in this situation, especially if they're used elsewhere in the score.
Otherwise, I really don't see any reason to keep the ties that flat. A bit more arc might make placement of the marcatos easier. In any case, I think you need to tweak a combination of elements (spacing, stem length, ties and articulations) to get the best result. Here's a suggestion:
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OCTOs suggestion to flip the marcatos is fine if unavoidable, but I don't think it's needed in this case.
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Which is now called MTF-Cadence as I shift directions to a different online store. More details soon about that (in another thread of course).DatOrganistTho wrote:The font I'm using is Cadence.Our own @tisimst made that font.
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Sorry, didn't get that from your OP. If you're referring to the spacing of the first beat, then yes, I do find it acceptable. Actually, while my experience in dealing with breves in a double stemmed context is very limited, I do believe there is no other way to space the notes. Lining up the layers just for the sake of it is not common when dealing with offset notes of other values, so I see no reason to do it in this case either.DatOrganistTho wrote:I like your solution, and am more concerned about the break in the parallel voices in the half-note context. You would find it acceptable to shift the half-note over on the right hand while leaving it as is on the left-hand staff?
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Does the MTF stand for Metafont?!?!? Meaning you'll have them scaled properly at different sizes ?!?tisimst wrote:Which is now called MTF-Cadence as I shift directions to a different online store. More details soon about that (in another thread of course).DatOrganistTho wrote:The font I'm using is Cadence.Our own @tisimst made that font.

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If your layer distribution isn't fixed, I would consider flipping the stems of the r.h. half notes, which would make the spacing of the layers more even, without the risk of collisions. I'm actually not entirely sure that the result would constitute an acceptable note alignment, but it looks OK to me:
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Re: [puzzle] A Breve Problem
Yes, absolutely. As long the notes are grouped (DatOrganistTho wrote:Thanks! I like that option too. Is it okay to have the half-notes not match up between the staves? That was also part of the problem.


Actually I see this as a problem in the voice leading. IF the voice withKnut wrote:If your layer distribution isn't fixed, I would consider flipping the stems of the r.h. half notes, which would make the spacing of the layers more even, without the risk of collisions.


