Clef for cue notes

[Felipe Copaja]

Hi everyone, I have this situation:
In an arrangement of piano variations for chamber ensemble, a cello is tacet in one of them, and the next starts with cue notes from violin, using .
Should a cautionary clef change be placed
a) at the end of the previous variation?
b) right after the key signature of the variation in which the cello plays (then showing like small )?
c) at the beginning of the variation, but no cautionary clef change in the previous?

Didn't find info on the web, nor in Gould's Behind Bars...

Thanks,
Felipe Copaja

[OCTO]

If I have understood correctly, I think the clef will be placed precisely when the violin music starts and returns back to bass clef immediately after the last bar in the violin. No cautionary will be used than. If violin starts immediately from the beginning, you need to indicate it there, the new clef. Cautionary music is just an information, not the regular clef change.

[Florian]

Definitely b), I think.

[John Ruggero]

I think that Gould does answer this question when she says: "It is good practice to retain the player's clef at the beginning of the stave at all times...The cue clef always come afterwards." p. 573 in Behind Bars.

[Felipe Copaja]

Ok, then, does anyone know how to do it in Finale 25?
I only can manage it using the cue clef as an expression, the clef tool has the option of placing chef changes after the barline, but doesn't work at the beginning of a system.

[RMK]

Create a blank measure, hide the default rest, make it narrow enough to only show the cautionary clef and adjust measure numbers.