half-dashed slurs

[Felipe Copaja]

Hi, for a critical edition I need to draw a slur that goes "normal" over a few notes, but editorial and dashed for the last two. Is there a way for this in Finale 25 (Mac)? I'd rather not use a regular slur and then a dashed slur over all the notes.

Felipe

[benwiggy]

I suspect not. I doubt any notation program** allows you to sub-divide the style of the slur. You'll have to edit a PDF in a vector artwork editor. You may have to cut chunks out of the slur.

Also, there were some tutorials that you may be able to find for how to make dashed slurs in vector drawing apps, before Finale added them.

** (Waits for someone to supply a few lines of code for Lilypond.)

[Anders Hedelin]

I tried using a smart-shape dashed slur and then superimposing a shape-expression solid slur with the right end masked. Apart from being extremely fussy, it only works outside the staff - inside, it will mask staff lines and notes as well - so I gave up. Sorry not to be of any help.

Probably a graphic program might be worth trying, as benwiggy suggested, if Finale allows importing vector graphics as vector graphics. (I recall having had some problems with that in the past, but possibly that is solved by now. ?)

[benwiggy]

I was suggesting editing the slur on the finished page, as a PDF, rather than making a slur and importing it into Finale.

There are still problems (or were last time I looked) importing vector graphics into Finale and getting them to display correctly with regards to transparency, and then to print correctly.

[Anders Hedelin]

OK. Good tip. I'll try that myself next time I have a need for it.

[OCTO]

I would not use one slur that is halfway dashed. I don't remember I have seen it yet.
Use two slurs instead.

[John Ruggero]

Half-dashed slurs are not uncommon in critical editions (and I have a few in my Beethoven Sonata edition). Dorico does them apparently:

https://steinberg.help/dorico/v1/en/dor ... les_r.html

[OCTO]

Half-dashed slurs are not uncommon in critical editions (and I have a few in my Beethoven Sonata edition). Dorico does them apparently:

https://steinberg.help/dorico/v1/en/dor ... les_r.html

Happy to learn something from you again, Thanks John!

[Felipe Copaja]

John, could you please show us an example?

Felipe

[John Ruggero]

You are very welcome, OCTO.

Here is an example from the first movement of Beethoven's Sonata op. 7:

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The footnote states that it is uncertain if the slur should extend all the way to m. 205.

I think you did a better job with yours as shown in your example over at FinaleForum, Felipe.